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Re: driverless cars

Post by josanmendoza » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:14 am

Adam wrote:
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Michael.N. wrote: Apart from reading and productivity I suppose you could practice that new etude. The possibilities are endless but I'll stop at that.
Now there's an idea ... then of course you might have to leave the guitar in the car, which is usually a no-no.
Yamaha Silent SLG200NW would solve that. :mrgreen:
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Re: driverless cars

Post by PeteJ » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am

eno wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:05 pm
PeteJ wrote:
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Meanwhile there is no 'problem of consciousness' in the perennial tradition and philosophy was sorted out centuries ago, but philosophers of mind don't study it.
Sorry, I didn't get it, what did you mean by saying that?
My apologies. This would take us way off topic. It was a controversial remark and not appropriate here, I don't mind discussing it but it would have to be somewhere else.

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Re: driverless cars

Post by Denian Arcoleo » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:37 pm

The 'perennial tradition' is pretty clear, is it not?

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Re: driverless cars

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:43 pm

Denian Arcoleo wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:37 pm
The 'perennial tradition' is pretty clear, is it not?
Yes - we have a Christmas tree every year! Oh wait, you meant a different "perennial tradition'... :D
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Re: driverless cars

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:48 pm

Here is an article on Wired that offers good perspective on deployment of self driving cars and generic plans of the companies involved.
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Re: driverless cars

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed May 01, 2019 10:01 am

Andrew Pohlman wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:48 pm
Here is an article on Wired that offers good perspective on deployment of self driving cars and generic plans of the companies involved.
Thank you Andrew. Seems a far more balanced account than some of the tosh that has been written in the last couple of years.

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Re: driverless cars

Post by PeteJ » Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 am

I'm unable to find an article explaining who wants these things other than the technology companies and the military. 'Toys for boys' it seems to me. Plus ca change.

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Re: driverless cars

Post by eno » Wed May 01, 2019 2:32 pm

PeteJ wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 am
I'm unable to find an article explaining who wants these things other than the technology companies and the military. 'Toys for boys' it seems to me. Plus ca change.
Even Bill Gates made bad predictions, you are in in a good company, Pete :)

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Re: driverless cars

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 01, 2019 9:43 pm

Has anyone mentioned the road tax issue? Because e-cars do not use gasoline, and therefore do not pay the tax on gasoline that is used for highway construction and repair, they're essentially using the highways for free. Shouldn't they be taxed in some way?

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Re: driverless cars

Post by PeteJ » Thu May 02, 2019 9:58 am

I suspect if there are civilian applications it'll be a long way down the line before we see them. First we have to put 5G substations onto every lamp-post and this'll take a while.

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Re: driverless cars

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Mon May 06, 2019 9:45 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 9:43 pm
Has anyone mentioned the road tax issue? Because e-cars do not use gasoline, and therefore do not pay the tax on gasoline that is used for highway construction and repair, they're essentially using the highways for free. Shouldn't they be taxed in some way?
Yeah - there is a lot of discussion about fairness. I trust our government in the US to just layer on new taxes unrelated to gasoline. For example, if you buy tires, you automatically pay a recycling fee. Whether or not they are properly recycled seems irrelevant, because you pay the tax either way. It could be handled simply in the licensing fees with a factor for odometer numbers, i.e., the more miles you drive, the bigger your licensing fees.

I have even seen talk of eliminating gas taxes altogether, in preference to a carbon tax on gas purchased in combo with licensing fees based upon odometer readings, i.e., miles driven. That would be the most fair in my mind in terms of both vehicle types being taxed appropriately. But I also trust our politicians to mess it all up.
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Re: driverless cars

Post by PeteJ » Tue May 07, 2019 10:30 am

eno wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 2:32 pm
PeteJ wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 am
I'm unable to find an article explaining who wants these things other than the technology companies and the military. 'Toys for boys' it seems to me. Plus ca change.
Even Bill Gates made bad predictions, you are in in a good company, Pete :)

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I didn't make any predictions. I was asking who wants this technology,

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Re: driverless cars

Post by eno » Tue May 07, 2019 3:00 pm

PeteJ wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:30 am
I didn't make any predictions. I was asking who wants this technology,
Me. And I saw quite a few other people in this thread interested. I spend 1.5 hrs a day driving on highways to work and back home, that's a waste of time and I'm risking my life. I would love to have a driverless car (IF they would be available) so that I can spend this time relaxing or reading and have less chance to die in a car accident. I don't read media wohoo and don't buy into marketing bluff, but it's just common sense.
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Re: driverless cars

Post by Denian Arcoleo » Tue May 07, 2019 3:30 pm

eno wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:00 pm
...but it's just common sense.
Is it?

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Re: driverless cars

Post by eno » Tue May 07, 2019 3:40 pm

Denian Arcoleo wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:30 pm
Is it?
Safer driving is not common sense? Saving at least part of 40,000 lives lost in car accidents each year in US only is not common sense?
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