Multi-string (extended range) recordings and scores on the forum

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Multi-string (extended range) recordings and scores on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:42 am

Please note: any recordings, scores or transcriptions for multi-string (extended range) guitars should continue to be posted in the appropriate sections elsewhere in the forum, in the relevant "Our recordings" subforum or in "Our scores" or "Our tablatures" as necessary, rather than in the multi-string subforum. This is largely to enable proper automatic indexing.

Any such recordings or scores should carry a tag in the title, indicating the instrument as follows:
- 7string guitar
- 10string guitar
etc.
(See this guide for more information about tags)

Notice that there is no space or hyphen immediately after the number. This allows us to find such topics with the forum search, which would not find them otherwise. (As the search engine ignores words shorter than 3 characters, and treats punctuation as word separators, trying to search on "10 string" or "10-string" will just ignore the "10" and give you a huge number of useless results for "string").

These are quick links to search results for multi-string recordings or scores/tabs already on the forum:

7string 10string 13string 15string

I'll add other links as other categories appear. You can do your own more refined search as follows:
Go to the Advanced search by clicking on the cogwheel icon to the right of the forum search box.
Enter the term you are looking for in the first field, eg. 10string
Click on the forum you wish to search, from the list. You can choose more than one by holding down the control key.
(Note that the subforums of each will be searched too, unless you click on Search subforums: No).
Then click on Search within: Topic titles only, and on Display results as: Topics
Finally click on Search.

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by igycrctl » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:55 am

Technically, aren't all guitars "multi-string"?

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:19 pm

Yes, that has occurred to me, but it appears to be the accepted shorthand term, so I'm not going to invent a new one. :wink:
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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by Alain Cloutier » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:25 pm

Hi Geoff

Can we add all my recordings in the 13 string section?

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by pogmoor » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:18 pm

Alain Cloutier wrote:Can we add all my recordings in the 13 string section?
Hello Alain, I've added a 13string tag to the titles of all your Weiss recordings. I'm not aware that you have recorded any other composer, but let me know if I have missed anything.
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Yamaha (SLG 130NW silent classical guitar 2014).

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by Alain Cloutier » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:27 pm

pogmoor wrote:
Alain Cloutier wrote:Can we add all my recordings in the 13 string section?
Hello Alain, I've added a 13string tag to the titles of all your Weiss recordings. I'm not aware that you have recorded any other composer, but let me know if I have missed anything.
Thanks!

No, I haven't recorded any other composer. Since I strarted playing with a 13 string I just played a little bit of Bach, Hagen and Kuhnel.

I am stuck with Weiss. I can't help it!

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:48 pm

Unfortunately the forum search index had to be removed today after serious server issues, and so part of my first post in this thread is no longer applicable. In due course we'll be able to use Google searches instead, and I'll rewrite the post when things are clearer.
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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by jack_cat » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:24 pm

Regarding this "multi-string" tag:
In my opinion, the preferable term is "Extended Range Guitars"
ERGs for short.
"Multi-string" is pretty cludgy.

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by GeoffB » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:17 am

Thanks, Jack. Fortunately, we aren't using "multi-string" itself as a tag when searching, but rather "7string" etc.

And thanks for bumping the topic, which has reminded me to announce this belated update:

As the forum search is now fully operational again, members can ignore my previous post above. The search links in the first post of the thread now work again.
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Re: Extended Range Guitars

Post by jack_cat » Fri May 24, 2019 8:28 pm

GeoffB wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:19 pm
Yes, that has occurred to me, but it appears to be the accepted shorthand term, so I'm not going to invent a new one. :wink:
Geoff, I withdraw my more pointed comments (apologies) and merely submit that you are uninformed.
A few minutes of research would have turned up the commonly used
term "Extended Range Guitar".

I personally have no idea where and among whom it could possibly be the
"accepted" term - since it is, after all, a patent logical absurdity:
The only gui-tar not fitting the "multi-string" category is the ek-tar, the one-string.
Even the do-tar is a multi-string -tar. One stringed guitars are rare.

You are not being asked to invent a new term, merely to use the one already in current use
(and for many years already) among the _actual_ players and builders of such instruments,
who take these instruments seriously, which is "Extended Range Guitar".
Those who don't play such instruments and view them with a somewhat pejorative
attitude may perhaps call them something else.

Geoff, thank you for taking on the job no one else wants, it cannot be a bed of roses being
the forum moderator (I may add that it cannot make it much easier to feel compelled
to defend a logical absurdity from the philistines), and, so thank you for doing a thankless
job, however you choose to do it, and bless you and keep up the good work.

j.
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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by soltirefa » Fri May 24, 2019 8:59 pm

Whoa, Jack. If you Google "multi-string guitar" you will find many search results. That's the term I have heard used quite often. If you prefer extended range, that's fine. But no need to get mad about semantics.

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Re: Multi-string recordings and scores on the forum

Post by jack_cat » Fri May 24, 2019 10:44 pm

Thank you for pointing out my faults. I have edited my comments.
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Re: Extended Range Guitars

Post by GeoffB » Sat May 25, 2019 11:53 am

jack_cat wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 8:28 pm

Geoff, thank you for taking on the job no one else wants, it cannot be a bed of roses being
the forum moderator (I may add that it cannot make it much easier to feel compelled
to defend a logical absurdity from the philistines), and, so thank you for doing a thankless
job, however you choose to do it, and bless you and keep up the good work.

j.
:lol: Thanks, Jack, you got that right :wink: . When the request was made for a specific section, it was in terms of one for "multi-string guitars" as I recall, and it is a term much used on the forum, so that's what we went for. Unfortunately, being chief moderator doesn't necessarily make me a complete expert on guitars (especially non-standard ones), it just means I know how the forum works, can work closely in French with the forum owner, am sufficiently trusted by him to be given access to the user database, like to help people, have almost endless patience, and am prepared to put countless hours of my own time into what you correctly guess is often a thankless task, just to keep the forum running. So I concede in hindsight that "extended range" would have been a better term to use. The subforum is already named, but I've added "extended range" into the title of this sticky to reflect the more common usage, so that it will come up in future title searches and direct people to the right place. Thanks for pointing it out!

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