Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by petermc61 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:33 pm

I had a very early Guitarlift, so maybe they have changed, but mine were electrostatic like a sheet of Kling-On. No glue involved. If you are worried you could buy some clear sheet from a third party specialist supplier (Oasis for example) made for FP and cut your own backing sheets.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:43 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:33 pm
I had a very early Guitarlift, so maybe they have changed, but mine were electrostatic like a sheet of Kling-On. No glue involved. If you are worried you could buy some clear sheet from a third party specialist supplier (Oasis for example) made for FP and cut your own backing sheets.
That's a good idea, I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion!

The new GuitarLift instructions show a picture of a person peeling the back of the circular dot. I peeled one back a little and it is indeed sticky, so I think there is some adhesive on it.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:37 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:33 pm
I had a very early Guitarlift, so maybe they have changed, but mine were electrostatic like a sheet of Kling-On. No glue involved. If you are worried you could buy some clear sheet from a third party specialist supplier (Oasis for example) made for FP and cut your own backing sheets.
Do I just buy some Grafix cling sheets? Same stuff?

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by petermc61 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 pm

No idea. I have used the Kling-on (available from SBM) and the Finishield (from DeOro) successfully. However, I tend to just use suction cups straight onto the finished wood.

Two caveats - I don’t leave suction cups affixed to an instrument for days or weeks. I take them off when not playing. Secondly, I am careful to keep a close eye on the finish with new instruments (say the first six months).

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:28 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 pm
No idea. I have used the Kling-on (available from SBM) and the Finishield (from DeOro) successfully. However, I tend to just use suction cups straight onto the finished wood.

Two caveats - I don’t leave suction cups affixed to an instrument for days or weeks. I take them off when not playing. Secondly, I am careful to keep a close eye on the finish with new instruments (say the first six months).
Thank Peter, I'll give the Finishield a try. At this point, the suction cups don't stay on more than a few minutes, no risk of them being on for days and weeks! ;-) Someone said to breathe on the suction cups, that seems to help a little but they still fall off too quickly.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:27 pm

larryguitar wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:28 pm
petermc61 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:12 pm
No idea. I have used the Kling-on (available from SBM) and the Finishield (from DeOro) successfully. However, I tend to just use suction cups straight onto the finished wood.

Two caveats - I don’t leave suction cups affixed to an instrument for days or weeks. I take them off when not playing. Secondly, I am careful to keep a close eye on the finish with new instruments (say the first six months).
Thank Peter, I'll give the Finishield a try. At this point, the suction cups don't stay on more than a few minutes, no risk of them being on for days and weeks! ;-) Someone said to breathe on the suction cups, that seems to help a little but they still fall off too quickly.
Hello Peter,

Well, I heard from Felix, and he said that the static cling sheets will not work with the suction cups. Has that been your experience?

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by petermc61 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:53 pm

Can you remind me who Felix is? Which specific sheet are you referring to?

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:03 pm

petermc61 wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:53 pm
Can you remind me who Felix is? Which specific sheet are you referring to?
Felix is the inventor of the GuitarLift. He said the FiniShield would not work to hold the GuitarLift, although I don't know if he has firsthand knowledge of that fact.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by petermc61 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:36 pm

If I don’t forget I’ll try that combination in the next day or so and report back.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by guitarguy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:08 am

As mentioned in a previous related post I can't recommend using the pads that come with the Guitarlift. They pealed off some of the French polish of my Antonio Marin's back (obviously not him, but the guitar). I had to get this repolished by my luthier, which was a nuisance.

In the meantime I went back to the Barnett support. It is just easier to transport than the Guitarlift as it is so much smaller.

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Re: Guitarlift users: how do you attach your lift?

Post by larryguitar » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:21 pm

guitarguy wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:08 am
As mentioned in a previous related post I can't recommend using the pads that come with the Guitarlift. They pealed off some of the French polish of my Antonio Marin's back (obviously not him, but the guitar). I had to get this repolished by my luthier, which was a nuisance.

In the meantime I went back to the Barnett support. It is just easier to transport than the Guitarlift as it is so much smaller.
Thanks for mentioning this again as I have a beautiful 2012 Cedar/Indian Marin and I can't bear the thought of sticking those foils on the back. I'll just have to see if I can get the static cling sheets to work. If not, I'll have to send it back or sell it. It's too bad because I think I could get along with this support after trying so many others.

I used a Barnett support for quite a while but I couldn't install it myself because my hands are so large and my wife balked at installing it on each new guitar, so I gave up. It was just too stressful to set up.

P.S. I see by your profile you're an IT manager. I'm a long time programmer, working on iPhone/iOS apps for the last eight years. If you need an iOS programmer... ;-) Sorry, this is off topic...haha

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