Awesome, Mark... thanks so much. My ignorance of Carulli's overall catalog is something I should attend to one of these days.Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:23 pmI am guessing that the only source was the method, Op.241.
Waltz (Em) No.21, P.31
Andantino (G) No.5, P.20
Etude (Am) No.19, P.30
Rondo (D) Op.241. No.7, P.22
Usual poor level of editing from Noad of course.
Hope your daughter's performance is enjoyable for her.
Lol. I was surprised given your known predeliction for 19th c. methods.2lost2find wrote:My ignorance of Carulli's overall catalog is something I should attend to one of these days.
Carulli is one I never really got around to. I only really know him through the four pieces that Noad used in his book... and I'm sure, as you say, I don't know how they were originally written due to Noad's curious approach to editing. More recently my lady has learned a couple of his sonatinas from a David Grimes book I bought for her birthday and I was struck by how good they are. Nothing earth-shattering but melodic, enjoyable, well-crafted material for the intermediate player in need of performance repertoire. So after I clear a couple of other items off my plate, I've got plans to explore his music in more depth. I'm at a conference today, but if time permits this evening I'll find a fascimle of op 241 and take a peak.Mark Clifton-Gaultier wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:08 pmLol. I was surprised given your known predeliction for 19th c. methods.2lost2find wrote:My ignorance of Carulli's overall catalog is something I should attend to one of these days.
Carulli is worth a second look in my opinion - yes, he churned stuff out in a highly commercial manner so that there is plenty of uninspired material, but amongst it all there are some gems - he knew exactly what he was doing.
Much as I admire Noad's method overall I mostly just ignore his fingerings and always have. I would use i on the 3rd string instead of p in this instance.drexparker wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:00 pmI would like to ask a basic technical question about the Carulli pieces cited above in Noad's book. Regarding the right hand notation for those pieces, e.g., "Waltz" has right hand using only p i m (not a). I have been training my right hand to use to use a for top string, m for second, i for third, and p for the lower 3 strings -- not without exception of course. There are other notations in this book that tend to omit using a. Advice from experts welcome here. thanks
Looking now... this is beyond Noad's usual level of editing weirdness. OK, # 5 in G wasn't changed in a significant way. He put it in a more beginner-friendly time structure that does not materially alter the feel of the piece, and dropped a couple of rests... which I had penciled in anyway not knowing that it's how Carulli wrote it; they just made sense. So no big deal. #21 in Em is sort of Noad's norm; he dropped some bass notes out of this one to make it easier to play. Annoying. #7 is completely off the rails; it turns out I have never played it in it's entirety. Noad dropped a whole section of the piece.
You're correct David, I should have phrased it differently. I will be more kind to him in future.David Norton wrote:In defense of Fred Noad ...
Here's a mystery - in my hard copy (second edition) I can't find them either but I have a dgitised version which offers:David Norton wrote:Now, a question: I can't find these referenced Carulli pieces in my ancient copy of "Solo Guitar Playing".