DE €.1590 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Leo Apray
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DE €.1590 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:46 pm

DE €.1990 OBO Masaru Kohno No. 8 Spruce/IRW 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

- Type / luthier: classical, Masaru Kohno Model 8
- Year of construction: 1972
- Scale length (mm): 660
- Nut width (mm): 52
- Top: solid Spruce
- Back / Sides: solid Indian Rosewood
- Fingerboard: Ebony
- Tuners: 39 mm spacing (Gotoh?)
- Finish: Cashew finish
- Sound: deep bass with clear singing treble
- Condition: in very good condition.
In regards to the age of the guitar, it’s in a very good condition. It has some harmless superficial marks on soundboard and back (belt buckle?). One repaired very fine hairline crack under the bridge and one repaired very fine hairline crack on back. All are professionally repaired by famous luthier Gropius. The ebony fingerboard is also refretted by the same luthier. He said that this is the hardest ebony he ever worked on.
Sides, neck, head and mechanics are all in good condition.
- Price: €1990, including a Hiscox case. Buyer pays actual cost for shipping and payment fee if applicable. Please feel free to make a reasonable offer.
- Viewing / trial possible: Yes, in person, delicious espresso/cappuccino included :-)
- Location (nearest city): near Stuttgart, Germany

Luthier profile:
Masaru Kohno-sensei started making guitars in 1948.
In 1960 he went to Spain to study the classical guitar lutherie intricacies with Archangel Fernandez.
He then continued improving his guitars in Japan and in 1967 he won the gold medal in Elizabeth's Concourse Belgium, an international competition in guitar lutherie (Fleta and Bouchet were the judges among others).
He died in 1998 and his workshop is continued by his nephew, Masaki Sakurai-sensei.

Kohno & Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=56508

The guitar:
When I got this guitar from a guitarist, who now mainly plays steel string, it had already one very fine hairline crack on soundboard and one on the back. I suspect it’s due to the improper storage in an untight case without humidifier for a long time. I then let the cracks repaired and also new frets installed. The jobs are professionally and wonderfully done by famous luthier Gropius.
In regards to its age, the guitar is in a very good condition, and is ready to be played.

It is a wonderful spruce/rosewood guitar, with which I hate to part.
Only selling to fund a commission with a delcamp luthier, which will be finally built soon.

Shipping:
Due to the Indian Rosewood (no CITES certificate), I can ship the guitar within European Union without problem.
Please consult for shipping outside EU.

I'd be happy to answer your questions or send you high quality pictures.

Leo

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Re: DE €.1990 OBO Masaru Kohno No. 8 Spruce/IRW 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:48 am

Here is sound sample of the guitar recorded with smartphone without any editing:

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Re: DE €.1990 OBO Masaru Kohno No. 8 Spruce/IRW 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:04 pm

Price drop to 1790 €.
@Moderators: kindly update the price to 1790 €. Thank you.

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by mike223 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:12 pm

Nice guitars but I ended up buying the Tsukasa Ikeda" -
Great pictures of your guitars Can I ask what camera your using
Regads Mike

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:08 am

Congratulation for the Tsukasa Ikeda.
Have fun with it.

Thank you for the flattery.
It was an old Canon SLR camera lower range, which I bought in 2011.

Leo

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by rinneby » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:00 pm

I have a wonderful Masaru Kohno No.10 from 1972, so pretty much the same model. It's one of the best Kohno's I ever heard and played, for real. High numbers in the world of Kohno means nothing.

/J
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1975 - Ikkoh Kawada No.1000
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Philipp Lerche » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 am

rinneby wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:00 pm
I have a wonderful Masaru Kohno No.10 from 1972, so pretty much the same model. It's one of the best Kohno's I ever heard and played, for real. High numbers in the world of Kohno means nothing.

/J
Indeed !
The bio of Kohno says he started making guitars in 1948 so it's obviously not the 8th guitar he ever made.
I guess he started a new numbering after completing his mastery in spain.
"If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done."
Bruce Lee

Best regards
Phil

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by rinneby » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:14 am

Philipp Lerche wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 am
rinneby wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:00 pm
I have a wonderful Masaru Kohno No.10 from 1972, so pretty much the same model. It's one of the best Kohno's I ever heard and played, for real. High numbers in the world of Kohno means nothing.

/J
Indeed !
The bio of Kohno says he started making guitars in 1948 so it's obviously not the 8th guitar he ever made.
I guess he started a new numbering after completing his mastery in spain.
The numbers actually correspond to Yen for that given year. So a No.8 in 1972 equals 80.000 Yen. Kohno stopped using the numbering system in the early 80s due to the rapid inflation of the Japanese Yen. This also means that a No.7 from 1964 is of much higher value than a No.10 from 1972. With that said, higher number doesn't mean "better guitar" only that different woods and decorations are used. I played a great No.5 and mediocre a No.30 for example.

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1975 - Ikkoh Kawada No.1000
2016 - Juan Miguel Carmona
2016 - Pete Beer

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Philipp Lerche » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:01 am

Thats so nice to know ! Thanks Jon !!
"If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done."
Bruce Lee

Best regards
Phil

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Sutguit » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:46 am

Hello,

Is the Kohno still available?

best from the north of Germany,
Christian

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:32 am

Sutguit wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:46 am
Hello,

Is the Kohno still available?

best from the north of Germany,
Christian
Hi Christian,

I sent you a pm.

Warmest regards from South Germany,
Leo

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by chrisphattingh » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:44 am

Hi Leo,

Have sent you a pm. I am interested in the history of this particular guitar, please.
Regards
Chris

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:58 am

chrisphattingh wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:44 am
Hi Leo,

Have sent you a pm. I am interested in the history of this particular guitar, please.
Regards
Chris
Hi Chris,

I bought the guitar from a amateur musician in North Rhine Westphalia, a state of Germany bordering to Netherlands.
When I bought the guitar, he said that he bought it from a friend, who is a guitar instructor there.
It would be very interesting, if this guitar is actually your Kohno, which you bought in Japan 47 years ago.

If you have pictures of your Kohno, we can try to match them with this guitar.
Meanwhile I'll try to find the contact of the previous owner (I hope I still have it).

Warmest regards,
Leo

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Re: DE €.1790 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by chrisphattingh » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:02 am

Hi Leo,

If you read my first post you will see the connection to the Khono, an emotional time in my life and I have searched in South Africa where I sold it and its not there anymore.
I don't have pictures but when I saw it I got goose pimples.
We arrived in Holland earlier this year and even if its not the same guitar....... I am sorely tempted but the move to Holland has cost us a lot of cash.
Thank you indeed, enjoy it.
Regards
Chris

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Re: DE €.1590 OBO Masaru Kohno No.8 spruce 1972, Stuttgart, Germany

Post by Leo Apray » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:42 am

Price drop to 1590 €.
@Moderators: kindly update the price to 1590 €. Thank you.

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