Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

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Thomas
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Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Thomas » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:46 pm

Do you? I mean saddle and nuts where strings have most friction.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by prawnheed » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:17 pm

No.

I have never found lubrication necessary on a nylon stringed guitar.

And pencil, a mixture of graphite and clay, is not what I’d choose as a lubricant on any kind of guitar.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Dirck Nagy » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm

Pencil works great on the nut slots for the wound strings. I've done it for years with no problems. Its not necessary for the nylon strings.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Thomas » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:46 pm

Dirck Nagy wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm
Pencil works great on the nut slots for the wound strings. I've done it for years with no problems. Its not necessary for the nylon strings.
Thanks what about for the 3 bass strings?

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by CarbonElitist » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:10 pm

Thomas wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:46 pm
Dirck Nagy wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm
Pencil works great on the nut slots for the wound strings. I've done it for years with no problems. Its not necessary for the nylon strings.
Thanks what about for the 3 bass strings?
I believe that's what Dirck was referring to, assuming your bass strings are wound.
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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by RobMacKillop » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:47 pm

I've used it many times in the past, on my own instruments and those of my students. Works perfectly well, with no harm to the instrument.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Richwilly » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:37 pm

Yes, works well.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by hesson11 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:35 am

If you don't like the blackness of regular graphite, you can find a white paste graphite that works great. Search online for "Rene Martinez GraphitAll Guitar Lube" if you're interested. I don't use it much on my nylons, but on steel strings, it is really nice to have.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by ashworth » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:19 am

I use it on the basses—does seem to help some (but I still somewhat get that bump in pitch up or down when a winding goes over that's always a little too much.)
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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by FootSor » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:30 pm

Another suggestion is micron size Teflon dust....Labelle Industries 134PTFE is a brand that I like but shipping is prohibitive. Amazon also lists ptfe powder lubricant. It can be "puffed" into the space around the tuning rollers without staining anything. A very small amount on the nut will eventually work its way into the bone and provide long term lubrication. The stuff looks sort of like white flour but is very slick.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by jayjayrose » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:17 am

I used to use bees wax on the nut of my lute. The angle over the nut to the peg head is much greater on a lute. It might work on guitar as well.
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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Charles Mokotoff » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:05 am

Dirck Nagy wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm
Pencil works great on the nut slots for the wound strings. I've done it for years with no problems. Its not necessary for the nylon strings.
Exactly, I always do this. If I don't, sometimes when tuning the basses in recital in a live hall the wounds make fairly loud clicks going over the nut.
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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by soltirefa » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:14 am

I once used spray dry lubricant - sprayed it on a cue tip and then rubbed it on the nut slots. It worked.

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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by Peter Frary » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:14 am

I use a wee file to widen the nut groove if it's binding: slack string, pull out of groove and a two or three swipes and it's loose as a goose.
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Re: Do you use pencil to lubricate saddle?

Post by SteveL123 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Charles Mokotoff wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:05 am
Dirck Nagy wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:44 pm
Pencil works great on the nut slots for the wound strings. I've done it for years with no problems. Its not necessary for the nylon strings.
Exactly, I always do this. If I don't, sometimes when tuning the basses in recital in a live hall the wounds make fairly loud clicks going over the nut.
I've found that if the bass strings nut slots was built up with CA glue + baking soda then filed down to fit the string, nothing works to lubricate it (including pencil). It will always creak and click!

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