K&K Sound Trinity Pro System VS LR Braggs Anthem SL Classical pickup/mic system?

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K&K Sound Trinity Pro System VS LR Braggs Anthem SL Classical pickup/mic system?

Post by markfleener » Wed May 01, 2019 8:47 pm

Has anybody here gotten to actually compare these two systems?

Personally, I'm thinking that K&K Sound's Pure-Pickup would be better than LR Braggs' saddle pickup, but then, I'm thinking that LR Braggs' Tru-Mic would be better than K&K Sound's internal mic. I'm really torn between the two systems, although, leaning more towards avoiding the saddle pickup.

https://www.kksound.com/products/trinitypro.php

Also comes with the pre-amp, not shown in their pic...
***commercial link removed*** (Search Shoreline K&K TRINITY PRO CLASSIC).

They also have the onboard pre-amp system...
***commercial link removed*** (Search Shoreline K&K ONBOARD TRINITY MINI).


I am confused as to why recording #1 (mic mix) in this link sounds bassier than recording #2 (50/50 mix), if the mic supposedly doesn't work below 250Hz and the under saddle pickup works below 250Hz, I just emailed them asking about it...
https://www.lrbaggs.com/pickups/anthem- ... microphone

***commercial link removed*** (Search GSI L.R. BAGGS ANTHEM SL NYLON PICKUP/INTERNAL MIC).

https://ucf5561e58d719f92c5cfbeb5f69.dl ... wsvNg/file
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Re: K&K Sound Trinity Pro System VS LR Braggs Anthem SL Classical pickup/mic system?

Post by markfleener » Thu May 02, 2019 1:58 am

The thing that's weird about the LR Braggs system, is that, the under saddle pickup is just for the frequencies below 250Hz, I think the mic has a crossover that cuts out anything below 250Hz. This is done to avoid low frequency feedback in high volume situations. The K&K Sound system avoids feedback with a phase switch (you can hear that in this link... https://kksound.com/products/purexlrpreamp.php). I think what would be really interesting is if a 3rd channel could be added to the LR Braggs system for the K&K Sound Pure Pickups, thus combining the Tru-Mic, the low frequency under saddle pickup, and the Pure Pickups. K&K Sound used to have a system that combined 3 channels (not using a crossover frequency filter), but they discontinued it a year ago (you can even hear a recording of it in the link)... https://kksound.com/products/powermixtrinity.php

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Re: K&K Sound Trinity Pro System VS LR Braggs Anthem SL Classical pickup/mic system?

Post by markfleener » Thu May 02, 2019 12:37 pm

I just noticed some links were removed, so I'm copy/pasting the description from the guitarsalon link...

I'm also realizing now the Tru-Mic is actually a PZM mic...

Description from guitarsalon...
Unlike previous internal mics, the patent-pending tru•mic handles the majority of the guitar’s frequency response - well into the magic lower midrange to 250 Hz. The tru•mic also blocks the reflected sound waves inside of the guitar that are responsible for the notorious internal mic “honk” and behaves as if it were outside of the guitar in a studio. The capsule floats inside of the guitar, just 3mm from the underside of the top, delivering unprecedented feedback resistance. An Element undersaddle pickup is used to augment only the lowest frequencies. The crossover rolls the pickup off at 250 Hz, eliminating the quack common to all undersaddle pickups. Hear all of the detail, warmth and personality of your guitar as only a real mic is capable of, without a hint of quack or honk.

Built into the endpin jack is a pure, all-discrete circuit that combines the Tru•Mic and Element pickup for the just the right amount body response and direct attack. This blend is perfectly balanced for all playing styles and is especially natural for percussive performances. The Anthem SL Classical also includes a soundhole mounted remote with volume and mic level trim controls.

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